Argumenti i debate sa muslimanima

Autor student, Ruj 09, 2024, 09:52 PRIJEPODNE

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Quran Error: Pharaoh's Drowning, Ramesses II, and the Strengthened Islamic Dilemma

In this video Michael Jones argues the Quran contains an error by repeatedly claiming the Exodus Pharaoh drowned in the sea and that his preserved corpse would be a sign.  Many Muslims identify this Pharaoh as Rameses II, but the historical data doesn't agree, making the Quran historically mistaken.  This only strengthens the "Islamic Dilemma" in that the Quran affirms and appeals to prior scriptures (including Surah 10:94) as a means to verify its revelations, yet the Quran's Pharaoh details cannot be verified from Jewish and Christian scriptures.

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The Most Important Summary of Islam Online

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Dr. William Federer unpacks who Muhammad actually is and the dark history of Islam.

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In this episode, three Christian apologists and three Muslim apologists come together to discuss one of the most important questions in theology and church history:

Did the historical Jesus teach the Trinity?

The panel discusses the deity of Christ, the earliest Christian beliefs, the reliability of the New Testament, monotheism, and whether the doctrine of the Trinity can be traced back to Jesus Himself.


Christians:
• Belle Liu –
• Inspiring Philosophy –
• GodLogic –

Muslims:
• DawahXDialogues –
• Seerah Dawah –
• The Muslim Apologetic –

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Michael Jones and Matt Fradd react to people defending the violence of Islam.

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Islam nije kompatibilan sa ustavom SAD-a (to vrijedi za ustave svih zapadnih zemalja uključujući EU).


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Citat: student  u Srp 10, 2025, 12:05 POSLIJEPODNE
Two New Findings That Mohammed Didn't Exist | Dr. Jay Smith

prezentacija:
https://forum.mojkrist.com/MohammedDidntExistDrJaySmith.zip


On August 21 (Jay's 72nd birthday), Dr Raymond Ibrahim and Dr Jay Smith debated for 3 hours on the topic "Did the Muhammad of Islam Exist?"

Dr Ibrahim supported the view that Muhammad (of history) did exist (which ironically Jay agrees with), while Dr Smith argued for the belief that the 'Muhammad of Islam' (the Muhammad of faith') did not exist.

Here is the full debate (minus the technical difficulties at the beginning, and the coffee breaks midway), along with the public Q&A at the end.

Debate Topic: Did the Muhammad of Islam Exist?
Date & Time: August 21, 3:00 PM EST
Debaters: Jay Smith @pfanderfilms  vs. Raymond Ibrahim @RaymondIbrahim-HW
Moderator: Hatun Tash


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Dr.Jay Smith Special Message — The Hidden Christian Origins of the Qur'an Finally Revealed ⭐⭐⭐

► In this eye-opening presentation, Dr. Jay Smith examines groundbreaking historical research surrounding the earliest Qur'anic texts and the controversial Proto-Qur'an theory.

► Discover the work of German scholars such as Gunter Lüling, Christoph Luxenberg, and others who argue that many difficult passages in the Qur'an may have originated from earlier Aramaic Christian hymns, lectionaries, and liturgical writings centered on Jesus Christ.
► Whether you agree or disagree, this lecture encourages careful historical investigation and critical examination of early manuscript evidence.

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Je li povijest odnosa između islama i kršćanskoga Zapada ispričana potpuno pogrešno?

U ovom opširnom intervjuu gostuje Raymond Ibrahim, američki povjesničar, autor i istraživač koptskoga podrijetla koji se bavi poviješću odnosa između islama i kršćanstva, progonom kršćana te islamskim vojnim osvajanjima.

Ibrahim opisuje kako je, radeći s arapskim knjigama u Kongresnoj knjižnici, pronašao spise Osame bin Ladena i Aymana al-Zawahirija. Prema njegovim riječima, poruke koje su vođe Al-Qaide upućivale zapadnoj javnosti bitno su se razlikovale od tekstova namijenjenih muslimanskoj publici. To ga je istraživanje dovelo do knjige ,,Al-Qaeda Reader", a zatim i do opsežnijega proučavanja islamske povijesti i progona kršćana.

Središnji dio razgovora posvećen je Ibrahimovoj kritici uobičajenoga prikaza križarskih ratova. Oslanjajući se na primarne kršćanske i muslimanske izvore, on tvrdi da se križarski ratovi ne mogu razumjeti bez prethodnih stoljeća islamskih osvajanja. Podsjeća da su Sjeverna Afrika, Egipat, Sirija, Mala Azija i veliki dio Bliskoga istoka prije islamskih osvajanja bili središta kršćanskoga svijeta.

U intervjuu se obrađuju:

 • rana islamska osvajanja i povijesna pozadina križarskih ratova
• položaj kršćana kao dhimmija i plaćanje džizje
• ropstvo, haremi i trgovina europskim robljem
• mit o mirnom i tolerantnom ,,zlatnom dobu" Andaluzije
• načelo ukidanja ranijih kuranskih ajeta kasnijima
• različiti oblici džihada i njihova suvremena primjena
• današnji progoni kršćana, osobito u Africi i Nigeriji
• odnos Osmanlija prema kršćanima i kršćanskim svetinjama
• migracija, demografske promjene i političko organiziranje muslimana na Zapadu
• duhovna i identitetska kriza Europe i zapadne civilizacije
• savez progresivne ljevice i političkoga islama unatoč njihovim suprotnim pogledima na obitelj, žene i homoseksualnost

Razgovor također razlikuje odnos pojedinoga kršćanina prema muslimanskom bližnjemu, evangelizacijsku zadaću Crkve i odgovornost države za sigurnost, poredak i očuvanje vlastite civilizacije. Sugovornici naglašavaju da ljubav prema muslimanima i naviještanje Evanđelja ne isključuju ozbiljno razmatranje islamskoga nauka, povijesti i političkih posljedica masovne migracije.

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